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"Baird admitted," said Mr. Herrmann, "of their having known of each other's dealings for more than two years.
"Baird says," said Mr. Herrmann, "whatever the ledger shows as a shortage, less about $160,000 that Boll got, he is responsible for, meaning that if there is a shortage of one million dollars, he is responsible for $800,000 of that shortage."
Officers Dissatisfied
Second Deputy Banking Commissioner Graff, as well as Mr. Herrmann, told Baird in the presence of his counsel, H. C. and Michael S. Niles, that they are entirely dissatisfied with his statement, because it is only general.
"We sent him back to his cell," said Mr. Herrmann, "with the suggestion that he refresh his memory within the next few days and then inform his counsel whether he is in shape to give a more specific statement, the reason being that, awaiting a more full and accurate statement, the bank examiners will be able to check up and verify the various defalcations.
"Baird," continued Mr. Herrmann, "has been requested to make an assignment to the bank commissioner for the benefit of the City bank creditors. He admits having a new Cadillac automobile (this is worth $5,000), a cash balance of $4,500 in bank, a small property which he bought for a colored man, and remnants of wildcat stocks, a few of which are in his safe deposit box in the City bank, and others are pledged in several York banks."
A request for reduction of bail from $200,000 to $100,000 was presented by counsel for Mr. Baird. Deputy Banking Commissioner Graff and Mr. Herrmann refused to reduce the bail. "The request for a reduction of the amount of bail came from Mrs. Baird, who would like to have her husband home with her for just a few days," stated Mr. Herrmann.
"Mr. Baird," said the assistant district attorney, "expressed a willingness, through his counsel, to make complete surrender of all property which he possesses, except such life insurance as is made payable to his wife."
He is willing, it was indicated, to enter a plea of guilty to charges preferred, it was stated by Mr. Herrmann, but Mr. Herrmann declared: "His plea will not be accepted until the banking department is thoroughly satisfied that they have made a full and exhaustive examination of the bank and its condition."
Right to Petition Court
Mr. Herrmann pointed out that the prisoner has a right to go into court and present a petition alleging that the bail demanded is excessive, and if the court deems it proper the court might reduce the amount of bail.
Baird, according to his confession, it was stated, used a double system of bookkeeping, using a separate ledger which was never shown to the bank examiner. One method of covering shortages was by running the safety deposits with the general fund. It is also stated that in presenting books for examination to the bank examiners forged checks would be used and charged up against individual accounts, and after the examiner left the accounts would be corrected by crossing such entries off as errors.
"Up until about twelve years ago," Mr. Herrmann said, "he did business largely through the bucket shops, on margin. Since that time he has dealt with other brokerage concerns.
"One of his ventures was the purchase of the Vulture Mining company. He sunk $150,000 in this.
"Another big source of loss were flyers in sugar. He was unable to recoup through this, the market going against him, and he lost heavily. He also lost in dabbling in railroad stocks.
"Many of the bucket shops with whom he claims to have done business have passed from existence. One of the brokerage concerns with whom he says he dealt was that of W. L. Bear, a former Yorker, who did business in Philadelphia. He has since failed."
Boll was taken into the counsel room for a conference shortly after Baird was removed to his cell. He admitted to defalcations of approximately $160,000. Said he had not speculated, but his shortage was due to the "high cost of living."
Took Funds "to Hire a Lawyer"
Boll admitted that while the bank examiner was at work in the bank on Monday night he stole $500 "to hire a lawyer."
Baird took $1,000. Baird has not stated that this was to "hire a lawyer."
In a statement to Bank Examiner Ferguson after his arrest on Tuesday afternoon, Boll stated that he had lost his money in stock operations. When pressed for the value of any on hand he thought it was worth $10,000.
An official of the state department of banking is not inclined to place absolute credence in Mr. Baird's story.
It smacks of an attempt to "cover up."
There were statements made in the course of the interview, according to this man, which reflected upon the honesty of a former cashier of the bank, now dead.
Then another fact pointed out by this man is that Baird claims that bucket shops with which he did business years ago, have gone out of business.
As dead men tell no tales and records of defunct bucket shops are no more, it can be seen that the examiners will have some trouble in checking up on the story of Baird. But the checking up is in progress.
One Million, Or Over
Representatives of the state department of banking now working on the bank's books and accounts are unable to give any definite information as to the size of the "hole" in the bank's resources.
While the embezzlement is estimated to amount to one million dollars, or more, the bank examiners are not in possession of data upon which they can definitely fix the amount of the defalcation. It may reach $1,000,000, and it may go even higher.
All day yesterday depositors of the bank were presenting their pass books